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<blockquote data-quote="Decado" data-source="post: 82458" data-attributes="member: 14923"><p>Hi Multikoe</p><p></p><p>I sense the need to remove some sting from my comments. In my defense I did reply at 4am local time so just fired off a reply from the top of my head and may not have taken the time or effort to be as diplomatic as I should have been.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You are far too harsh on yourself, I did not pick that English is not your native language. I speak other languages myself but none of them as well as you speak English so you outmatch me there.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>While it is probably obvious that I do have a classical education and am disgustingly well read I make no claims to "Master" anything. I do my best, I think deeply on things but am as likely to be wrong as the next person.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Once again, I'm obviously a student of history (and I also have a near eidetic memory) so I carry along with me a wealth of trivia and detail in history that is usually useless but occasionally comes in handy.</p><p></p><p>We are all taught in school how democracy was invented by the ancient Greeks. What our educators do not like to teach us was that it was considered a "failed experiment" and little more than "mob rule" and was discarded after 117 years and not seen again in it's modern form until almost 2000 years later.</p><p></p><p>In principle Democracy is a fine idea, <em>In principle </em>so is Socialism or Communism. Sadly <em>in practice</em> all systems are administered by human being with all of their failings and weakness for corruptions of many kinds. So in practice I treat governments of any kind like sharks. They are only dangerous when you take your eyes off them.</p><p></p><p>You are correct, While I greatly like people individually, in large groups I am cautious and towards the large structures in which they construct to rule others (Governments) I do indeed have a "deeply-felt negative emotion". It's called distrust ... or perhaps better looked at as "self preservation". I neither need or recognise any authority greater than my own moral compass. In the words of the characters of the author Robert Heinlein "In so far as I find Government tolerable I tolerate it, when I don't I do not."</p><p></p><p>Fortunately better than 98.5% of the time what I discern as being right matches up with what society in the form of our Government sees as being right.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You are indeed fortunate, I wonder if the majority of your fellow citizens share your trust? I sadly live in a country which claims to be a democracy yet where the people have no bill of rights and do not have the right to free speech protected in the constitution or law.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Anguish is too strong a word, distrust is adequate. I am glad for you that you do not have need to be so on guard.</p><p></p><p>As far as Mr Trump, I generally try to avoid political comment in public forums due to the upset it can cause. This time I'll be a little daring. Let us just say that here in Australia we sadly tend to throw out our heads of state about twice a year for silly reasons recently but on the other hand we haven't elected an allegedly corrupt, undeniable sociopathic troll doll in the early stages of dementia to our highest office ... shall we call it a draw? XD</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Now, let's be reasonable here. "Acquaint you with my views"?, "Share with you my views"?, those I will accept. "<strong>IMPOSE </strong>on you" my views? Both incorrect and unfair. I am the seventh generation of my family to serve the crown and fight for the right of people to hold views that do not agree with my own. I most strongly uphold your right to disagree with me. Here's another quote for you. "It is the measure of the freedom of our society that we allow those who we most despise to have their say". I don't despise you or have any negative emotion towards you of course but the quote encapsulates my beliefs.</p><p></p><p>I must admit that I missed your implication that Government can be trusted no more than the individual, but you missed the fact that my initial comment was in wry humour. Shall we call that even also?</p><p></p><p>Sir, while I take on board your point we are going to have to agree to disagree because as I stated above, your trust or the Government's trust is to my eyes without relevance. My natural rights are not constrained or limited by your any anyone's trust. I may and will do as I see fit and own that which I see fit (short of weapons of mass destruction and the like of course) until such time as I use those rights to trespass upon the rights of others. At that point I expect you to come after me or the Government to come after me.</p><p></p><p>So let us steer back to the point.</p><p></p><p>Most of the regulations mentioned here that irk people, they do not apply to me in my own country. I can fly in controlled airspace, I can fly right up to the movement area of a controlled aerodrome as long as I am radio communication with the tower and stay below 150Ft and I keep away from 15º of the approach and departure angle.</p><p></p><p>I can authorise for myself or my employees flights at night, over crowds and even obtain permission to fly in restricted areas and over 400Ft and much else. How? Because I took the time and spent considerable effort and many thousands of dollars to obtain my Remote Pilots Licence, my Aeronautical Radio Operators Certificate and a Remote Operators Certificate for my company. In my country I am not considered so much a "Commercial Drone Operator" but as a low grade pilot. I am trained in and have been examined in the same aeronautical laws, practices and requirements as a regular pilot, I can communicate with Air Traffic Control and other pilots of manned aviation and the Remote Operators Certificate shows I have proven myself capable to do Job Safety Analysis and put in place Risk mitigation and Threat and Error management practices to make non standard flights allowable.</p><p></p><p>If people are finding new rules to be objectionable or restrictive I strongly suggest to them to undertake the training and obtain the qualifications that will allow you to operate unrestrained by those rules. Most countries have a mechanism for this.</p><p></p><p>I also hope this demonstrates that while I do not support the idea that your, the Government's or anyone elses's trust should limit what I can do or own I <em>do</em> recognise the obligation upon me to excercise my rights in a safe way for the public and the desirability to aquire the knowledge and the qualifications to do so in a regulated environment. That in mind I hope you will see that while I may be "anti establishment" I don't think I could be thought of as an anarchist either.</p><p></p><p>I do apologise for the wall of words and taking us so far off thread, on the other hand I hope that I have clarified my views in a reasonable manner and removed any offense my reply gave you.</p><p></p><p>Regards</p><p>Ari</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Decado, post: 82458, member: 14923"] Hi Multikoe I sense the need to remove some sting from my comments. In my defense I did reply at 4am local time so just fired off a reply from the top of my head and may not have taken the time or effort to be as diplomatic as I should have been. You are far too harsh on yourself, I did not pick that English is not your native language. I speak other languages myself but none of them as well as you speak English so you outmatch me there. While it is probably obvious that I do have a classical education and am disgustingly well read I make no claims to "Master" anything. I do my best, I think deeply on things but am as likely to be wrong as the next person. Once again, I'm obviously a student of history (and I also have a near eidetic memory) so I carry along with me a wealth of trivia and detail in history that is usually useless but occasionally comes in handy. We are all taught in school how democracy was invented by the ancient Greeks. What our educators do not like to teach us was that it was considered a "failed experiment" and little more than "mob rule" and was discarded after 117 years and not seen again in it's modern form until almost 2000 years later. In principle Democracy is a fine idea, [I]In principle [/I]so is Socialism or Communism. Sadly [I]in practice[/I] all systems are administered by human being with all of their failings and weakness for corruptions of many kinds. So in practice I treat governments of any kind like sharks. They are only dangerous when you take your eyes off them. You are correct, While I greatly like people individually, in large groups I am cautious and towards the large structures in which they construct to rule others (Governments) I do indeed have a "deeply-felt negative emotion". It's called distrust ... or perhaps better looked at as "self preservation". I neither need or recognise any authority greater than my own moral compass. In the words of the characters of the author Robert Heinlein "In so far as I find Government tolerable I tolerate it, when I don't I do not." Fortunately better than 98.5% of the time what I discern as being right matches up with what society in the form of our Government sees as being right. You are indeed fortunate, I wonder if the majority of your fellow citizens share your trust? I sadly live in a country which claims to be a democracy yet where the people have no bill of rights and do not have the right to free speech protected in the constitution or law. Anguish is too strong a word, distrust is adequate. I am glad for you that you do not have need to be so on guard. As far as Mr Trump, I generally try to avoid political comment in public forums due to the upset it can cause. This time I'll be a little daring. Let us just say that here in Australia we sadly tend to throw out our heads of state about twice a year for silly reasons recently but on the other hand we haven't elected an allegedly corrupt, undeniable sociopathic troll doll in the early stages of dementia to our highest office ... shall we call it a draw? XD Now, let's be reasonable here. "Acquaint you with my views"?, "Share with you my views"?, those I will accept. "[B]IMPOSE [/B]on you" my views? Both incorrect and unfair. I am the seventh generation of my family to serve the crown and fight for the right of people to hold views that do not agree with my own. I most strongly uphold your right to disagree with me. Here's another quote for you. "It is the measure of the freedom of our society that we allow those who we most despise to have their say". I don't despise you or have any negative emotion towards you of course but the quote encapsulates my beliefs. I must admit that I missed your implication that Government can be trusted no more than the individual, but you missed the fact that my initial comment was in wry humour. Shall we call that even also? Sir, while I take on board your point we are going to have to agree to disagree because as I stated above, your trust or the Government's trust is to my eyes without relevance. My natural rights are not constrained or limited by your any anyone's trust. I may and will do as I see fit and own that which I see fit (short of weapons of mass destruction and the like of course) until such time as I use those rights to trespass upon the rights of others. At that point I expect you to come after me or the Government to come after me. So let us steer back to the point. Most of the regulations mentioned here that irk people, they do not apply to me in my own country. I can fly in controlled airspace, I can fly right up to the movement area of a controlled aerodrome as long as I am radio communication with the tower and stay below 150Ft and I keep away from 15º of the approach and departure angle. I can authorise for myself or my employees flights at night, over crowds and even obtain permission to fly in restricted areas and over 400Ft and much else. How? Because I took the time and spent considerable effort and many thousands of dollars to obtain my Remote Pilots Licence, my Aeronautical Radio Operators Certificate and a Remote Operators Certificate for my company. In my country I am not considered so much a "Commercial Drone Operator" but as a low grade pilot. I am trained in and have been examined in the same aeronautical laws, practices and requirements as a regular pilot, I can communicate with Air Traffic Control and other pilots of manned aviation and the Remote Operators Certificate shows I have proven myself capable to do Job Safety Analysis and put in place Risk mitigation and Threat and Error management practices to make non standard flights allowable. If people are finding new rules to be objectionable or restrictive I strongly suggest to them to undertake the training and obtain the qualifications that will allow you to operate unrestrained by those rules. Most countries have a mechanism for this. I also hope this demonstrates that while I do not support the idea that your, the Government's or anyone elses's trust should limit what I can do or own I [I]do[/I] recognise the obligation upon me to excercise my rights in a safe way for the public and the desirability to aquire the knowledge and the qualifications to do so in a regulated environment. That in mind I hope you will see that while I may be "anti establishment" I don't think I could be thought of as an anarchist either. I do apologise for the wall of words and taking us so far off thread, on the other hand I hope that I have clarified my views in a reasonable manner and removed any offense my reply gave you. Regards Ari [/QUOTE]
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